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It’s your money.
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How comfortable are you
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with me and you messing this up?
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Just for the video?
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Comfortable.
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Afterwards, he's going to beat the shit out of me.
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Definitely.
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When I first met Din Haikin,
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it was over ten years ago
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for a job interview at his family's business, Shanken.
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And since then, our parts have kind of gone in different directions.
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More recently, Din has stepped away from his family business
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and explored somewhat of a passion project with his partners
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in TenTo.
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And if you ask me, I think we're all lucky for it.
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This is Beyond the Past.
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Gabe, what are we making?
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We making Salmon Ochazuke,
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which is our like,
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a signature dish that we make here.
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It became pretty popular dish.
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How I came about this dish?
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It was just like when I was hungry
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at work and then just grabbing rice,
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a little bit of soup
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And then just eating with salt, really.
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It's a proper hospo dish, it sounds.
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Rice and stock.
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Started from the bottom.
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Totally.
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Just smash it on the fly.
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Easy.
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Yes.
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Good luck!
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We've got this.
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My dad has bakery, sort of chef background.
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We had the passion for coffee.
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We worked with a few solid characters back in the day,
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at the beginning of the beginners of coffee.
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And then we drove fast.
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And then my dad saw this shop that was empty.
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And so he pulled up like a great Middle Eastern dude,
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just a middle of the road,
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ran into the shop, knocked on the door.
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The Syrian guy opened the door.
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And we've been there for 16 years.
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And we sort of like, we made a billion mistakes in the beginning.
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We made endless mistakes in the beginning.
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And we
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we learned.
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So this is salmon belly.
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Yeah
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We get them in whole fillets
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but for us like today.
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Thank you, one each.
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So risky.
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I'll just grab the tip of the skin.
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Yeah.
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And then go like this.
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Okay.
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And then
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there is a sound, particular sound.
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There was no sound now.
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So that means, it's like this.
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But when you,
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like, can you hear?
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Which means
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you can see all the shiny.
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There is like a layers for the skin.
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Yep.
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This is the skin that you can eat it but not uncooked one.
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Yeah.
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And then this is between the layer and the meat.
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So it's like this shiny, beautiful, shiny
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for the salmon.
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And then we want to get all of it.
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It makes it look so easy.
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Yo, killing it.
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Am I actually
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I’m pulling out the skin and the fish.
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Look how far I
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I've got this far.
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Damn it!
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Where’s the white?
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Where’s the white stuff?
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It's all in here.
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Okay.
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Nailed it.
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Pretty fancy.
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Nailed it.
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Barely any fish left on there.
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He’s awesome.
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You're welcome.
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Din’s money down the drain.
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It's just me and an unbelievable gentleman called Ryota Kumasaka.
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Rio is a good lad.
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He's a gun.
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And we've been friends for a long time.
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11 years, something like that?
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And we're always joking and saying,
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Oh, yeah, one day we'll do something together.
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Ha ha ha ha.
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And then COVID came around.
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Yeah.
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And I was actually at the time looking to do my own espresso bar
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anyway in Sydney.
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So I kind of like looked around, kind of been through COVID
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and we both kind of like started seeing
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what other things we can do to be able to help our businesses.
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And then I said man
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“man, if I find something, I’ll let you know.”
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My wife actually found the space.
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Good find.
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Yeah.
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Solid find.
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You need a good wife.
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So we came in and I was like, Holy
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schnitzel.
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Schnitzel?
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Holy schnitzel.
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This is
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Kyoto backstreets.
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We need to do something in here.
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Kyoto, real, Japan,
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Japanese food, coffee,
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Great space, great landlord.
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So we were
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Yeah.
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When we found the place, we actually had a different vision.
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The menu when we started was a little bit different.
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This is the only dish that have not changed, right?
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You’ve got to evolve, haven’t you?
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You can't just stick to the same stuff.
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And listening, listening to our customers has been probably
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the most useful tool.
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In our parts of the brain
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there is, you know, is a happy section, and we need to
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we need to wake that up.
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Especially after COVID a lot of people have gone for,
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I don't know one person that did not have some sort of mental,
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you know, shutdown
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or negative experience in that time.
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So
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bringing back some some happiness is so important.
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So important.
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So just go like this from the back of the knife.
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If you want to follow the pattern.
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You'll be going from here.
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Okay.
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And then just going like this
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All mine is going to be really thin because I left
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most of it on the skin, didn’t I?
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That's piece of the day, I think.
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Oh yeah,, this is really good.
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This is really cool.
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Mine's really good, Din.
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Yeah, I finished mine.
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Here you go.
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Almost all of mine looks like off cuts,
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but I'm okay with it.
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Rio just came up and he was like, I can make these plates.
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I was like, huh?
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Everything around.
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Correct.
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Which is insane to me.
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And then it also means that just literally every single part of it
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is TenTo.
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Yes.
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We had the first super, super busy Saturday
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and the kitchen was like, “We don't have enough plates,
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we don't have enough ramekins.
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What do we do?”
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Rio literally ran downstairs, brought clay, was sitting down in here
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with milk crates
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and he was just like showing us how to make it.
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And we made like 15 in 30 minutes or something.
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Do you have to bake them?
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Yes. Yeah.
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So this is the longest process.
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So he took them home.
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He's got a kiln. Fired everything.
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Glazed, fire, glazed.
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We put it online on Etsy for the first time, and
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in 72 hours,
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everything's sold online
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And we love them, but we didn't know
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everyone else really likes them.
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And then we said, okay, okay, okey...
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This is
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We need to take this serious.
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So we created the company called TenTo Clay.
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And we are working on going online
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and working on producing own clay.
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So we have here is like rice pops,
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which is called Arare,
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this one here.
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And I just
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top and bottom.
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Yep, for this
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I recon I'm gonna nail this
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but can I do it?
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Okay, this is good.
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And then if it there is like
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uneven shape, you can just
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Oh, you can still play with it.
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You can still mold it.
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It feels so fragile.
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Wow Graeme!
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Press and then press.
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Press and press, what?
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Press and press.
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Yes. And yeah.
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Work out.
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Easy going.
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It burns pretty quick.
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That's enough.
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I will pass it onto an expert
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to put it on the table so it wouldn’t fall out of my hand
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Am I allowed to use it on cars?
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The industry is going in a very interesting direction.
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There's some unbelievable joints.
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There's some unbelievable
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places that I haven't seen anywhere in the world in Sydney,
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you know so, interesting stuff.
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It’s good. I'm excited for the future of hospitality.
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What about the future TenTo?
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You need, you need 12 to 18,
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if not 2 years,
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to actually really know your business and really understand
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if you're able to grow enough.
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Because you've you might be thinking
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that you're the best in the world
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because you've hit that peak after like 4 months.
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Totally.
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And you're going to be like, this is me.
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And that's a piece of cake.
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Yeah, I'll do this again.
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And that's, this is when you
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you get the uppercut
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and you are thinking again
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and all of a sudden
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everything you worked for is collapsing
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and you're like, Oh, hold on, hold on.
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What do I need to pay tax?
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What the hell is this?
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Give it 2 years, you know, if you already know you're doing.
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Concepts take a while.
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You got to be smart about it.
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We should not run before we learn how to walk.
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That's it.
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And then this is where the tricky part comes,
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which is we want to make a flower so we get a piece.
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And then using the top one, turn it around
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like this.
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And then put it like this.
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I'm just looking and go
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and how many more of Gabe's pieces are left?
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Yeah, that's
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These ones.
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These are good ones? Ok.
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Yuzu Kosyo is like Yuzu salt paste and should be as well
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we want to do like this.
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Small toutches.
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Just three dots.
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This one, just a spoon.
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just like
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a turtle.
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So you see like how they
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falling down.
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Little bit dill on the side.
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I don't want to hide the salmon eggs. I want to show them.
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So on the sides.
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Just some flowers.
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Make it more beautiful.
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Aesthetic.
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Probably a good idea to choose, like,
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different colors and break them like petal by petal
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or even two petals like this.
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Okay.
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And then that’s it.
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That is done.
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Oh, that looks good.
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Thanks.
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Which one is Din’s?
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Gabriel!
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This is...
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Come on, mate!
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This is not okay.
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That’s so good.